I am joined by James Iandoli and a returning guest James Rose to discuss CE5 and the push towards UFO disclosure. James Iandoli shares his background and past experiences which have led him towards playing an important role in growing CE5 and being part of the UFO community. We discuss and look ahead to a bright future as more and more people become aware of the UFO phenomenon and the stigma surrounding the subject is broken.

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